How to upgrade MS source to Extractor 350?

Hi,

I have a 5977 MS with SST source. I'm thinking of upgrading to Xtr 350. The MS can support it (There's an extra jack on the board to connect the extractor lens), but I was wondering if I need to make changes to the software or run the Parts Finder after installing the source. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

Ehsan

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  •   What is the model number listed along with the serial number label on your system?  For example, this one is a G7077C, a 5977C system with a turbomolecular high vaccum pump and an extractor ion source.

  • Hi  ,

    Thank you for your attention! The model numberd is G7080B with a diffusion oil pump.

  • I really appreciate your response, Paul!

    I'm looking to measure hormone concentration in plant tissue using Methyl Chloroformate derivatization. I successfully detected and measured amino acids and some hormones with good sensitivity, but other hormones and some toxins are present in trace amounts (1-100 ng/g fresh weight, very variable depending on species and environment). Sinch most of these compounds have low molecular mass (C5-C10), their spectra don't make some big peaks like diterpenes (C20). I know they are usually being measured using UPLC/HPLC, but we don't have access to this equipment here. It's also very labor intensive and dangerous to use more than 200mg of tissue sample for extraction and analysis using MCF derivatization. Things I'm thinking of is to increase He pressure to 15-16 psi (and put inlet on constant pressure instead of constant flow), so that I can inject more sample without having backflush problem, use SIM instead of TIC, and in the best case, upgrade to Extractor source.

  • Calculate how much of each peak is being injected.

    Don't increase the column flow higher than 1.2 to 1.3 ml/min, but certainly do constant flow.

    How much are you injecting? What solvent is being injected? What are your other injection port parameters?  Split? Splitless  -  what splitless On time?  What splitless purge flow?  What is your initial oven temperature?   You can upload the acqmeth.txt file that exists underneath your method's ******.M subdirectory here.

  • I couldn't upload the file, so I copied the whole text here:

    INSTRUMENT CONTROL PARAMETERS: GCMS
    --------------------------------------

    D:\EhsanKhedive\GC_AquisitionMethod\Total_Metabolome.M
    Mon Mar 20 09:53:06 2023

    Control Information
    ------- -----------

    Sample Inlet : GC
    Injection Source : GC ALS
    Injection Location: Front
    Mass Spectrometer : Enabled


    No Sample Prep method has been assigned to this method.


    GC
    GC Summary
    Run Time 36.357 min
    Post Run Time 1 min

    Oven
    Temperature
    Setpoint On
    (Initial) 45 °C
    Hold Time 1 min
    Post Run 45 °C
    Program
    #1 Rate 7 °C/min
    #1 Value 240 °C
    #1 Hold Time 1 min
    #2 Rate 20 °C/min
    #2 Value 270 °C
    #2 Hold Time 5 min


    Equilibration Time 0.5 min
    Max Temperature 325 °C
    Maximum Temperature Override Disabled
    Slow Fan Disabled

    ALS
    Front Injector
    Syringe Size 10 μL
    Injection Volume 2 μL
    Solvent A Washes (PreInj) 2
    Solvent A Washes (PostInj) 2
    Solvent A Volume 8 μL
    Solvent B Washes (PreInj) 2
    Solvent B Washes (PostInj) 2
    Solvent B Volume 8 μL
    Sample Washes 0
    Sample Wash Volume 2 μL
    Sample Pumps 3
    Dwell Time (PreInj) 0 min
    Dwell Time (PostInj) 0 min
    Solvent Wash Draw Speed 300 μL/min
    Solvent Wash Dispense Speed 6000 μL/min
    Sample Wash Draw Speed 300 μL/min
    Sample Wash Dispense Speed 6000 μL/min
    Injection Dispense Speed 6000 μL/min
    Viscosity Delay 0 sec
    Sample Depth Disabled
    Injection Type Standard
    L1 Airgap 0.2 μL
    Solvent Wash Mode A, B


    Front SSZ Inlet He
    Mode Splitless
    Heater On 260 °C
    Pressure On 7.2892 psi
    Gas Saver Off
    Purge Flow to Split Vent 3 mL/min at 0.75 min

    Thermal Aux 1 (MSD Transfer Line)
    Temperature
    Setpoint On
    (Initial) 280 °C
    Post Run 0 °C


    Column
    Column #1
    Flow
    Setpoint On
    (Initial) 1 mL/min
    Post Run 1 mL/min

    Agilent 19091S-433UI
    HP-5ms Ultra Inert
    -60 °C—325 °C (325 °C): 30 m x 250 μm x 0.25 μm
    In Front SSZ Inlet He
    Out MSD
    (Initial) 45 °C
    Pressure 7.2892 psi
    Flow 1 mL/min
    Average Velocity 36.473 cm/sec
    Holdup Time 1.3709 min

    Column Outlet Pressure 0 psi

    Signals
    Signal #1: Test Plot
    Description Test Plot
    Details
    Save Off
    Data Rate 50 Hz
    Dual Injection Assignment Front Sample

    Signal #2: Test Plot
    Description Test Plot
    Details
    Save Off
    Data Rate 50 Hz
    Dual Injection Assignment Back Sample

    Signal #3: Test Plot
    Description Test Plot
    Details
    Save Off
    Data Rate 50 Hz
    Dual Injection Assignment Back Sample

    Signal #4: Test Plot
    Description Test Plot
    Details
    Save Off
    Data Rate 50 Hz
    Dual Injection Assignment Back Sample


    MS Information
    -- -----------


    General Information
    ------- -----------


    Acquisition Mode : Scan
    Solvent Delay (minutes) : 4.3
    Tune file : D:\MassHunter\GCMS\1\5977\ATUNE.U
    EM Setting mode Gain : 1.000000

    Normal or Fast Scanning : Normal Scanning
    Trace Ion Detection : Off
    Run Time (if MS only) : 650 minutes

    [Scan Parameters]
    Start Time : 4.3
    Low Mass : 31
    High Mass : 400
    Threshold : 150
    A/D Samples: : 4


    [MSZones]

    MS Source : 230 C maximum 250 C
    MS Quad : 150 C maximum 200 C

    Timed Events
    ----- ------
    Number Events= 0

    END OF MS ACQUISTION PARAMETERS


    TUNE PARAMETERS for SN: US1638P001
    ---------------------------------

    Trace Ion Detection is OFF.

    34.593 : EMISSION
    70.007 : ENERGY
    32.907 : REPELLER
    90.331 : IONFOCUS
    17.627 : ENTRANCE_LENS
    1271.928 : EMVOLTS
    1394.3 : Actual EMV
    1.00 : GAIN FACTOR
    2834.000 : AMUGAIN
    138.500 : AMUOFFSET
    1.000 : FILAMENT
    0.000 : DCPOLARITY
    15.482 : ENTLENSOFFSET
    0.000 : Ion_Body
    0.000 : EXTLENS
    323.000 : MASSGAIN
    -25.000 : MASSOFFSET

    END OF TUNE PARAMETERS
    ----------------------

    END OF INSTRUMENT CONTROL PARAMETERS
    ------------------------------------

  • First recommendations and some questions:

    Equilibration Time 0.5 min Please increase to 1 min or more. Cooling to 45 from 270, the oven sheetmetal needs more time for the entire oven to equilibrate. This will improve run to run reproducibility.
    Injection Volume 2 μL 2 µL of what solvent ??  The vapor volume can be calculated to find out if the vapor will even fit into the injection port liner.  Also the initial oven temperature should be 10 to 25 degrees lower than the solvent boiling point for good cold trapping of your sample at the head of the column.
    Viscosity Delay 0 sec Please increase to 2 or 3 seconds. This has been proven to improve reproducibility. 
    Mode Splitless You may want to consider doing a pulsed splitless injection.   What liner is installed in the injection port?
    Heater On 260 °C The typical choice would be to have the inlet the same as your final oven temperature… so 270° C.
    Purge Flow to Split Vent 3 mL/min at 0.75 min This is wrong.  The purge flow to split vent must have the flow set high enough to sweep the liner quickly. I would recommend making this 50 ml/min at 0.75 minutes and then turn on Gas Saver to 30 ml/min at 2 minutes.
    Low Mass : 31 Why are you scanning starting at 31?  Do you need to see m/z 32 for some reason in your run data?
  • Thank you for your valuable recommendations!

    • I will increase the equilibrium time.
    • My solvent is Chloroform and from Vapor Volume Calculator I realized it will occupy ~82% of liner volume (~900ul) at 260C/7psi. So, I thought its feasible to inject 2ul. Chloroform boiling point is 61C, but I wasn't aware of this. Thank you!
    • I will increase the delay to 1-2 sec.
    • Liner is single taper.
    • Thank you for the pulsed splitless injection recommendation. I will use it. What would be the optimum injection pressure and time in that case?
    • I thought keeping inlet cooler than oven by ~10C prevents compound buildup and carry-over. That was the reason I keep it cooler. That's also the reason I put TL 10C higher than column.
    • Purge flow: I thought it might be problematic. I try to save gas since it's grade 5 (9.9999) and expensive. I will change the split vent flow. Is it possible to put the split vent on 3ml/min in standby mode and then increase it to 50ml/min a couple of hours before the start of analysis?
    • Most of the compounds of interest have very low mass (as low as 100). Even for some of them mass 27 is among the main mass peaks. I was even thinking to reduce it to 25m/z. What problem would this make? I usually put the maximum mass as my molecular weight+30Da in case they are methylated during derivatization.
    • Since I keep my split vent low, sometimes I see m/z 32, especially during my blank run before the batch.
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