GC-FID/MS

We have a GC-MS instrument and it works well. Recently we installed a new column which connected to FID detector. Now we want to run a method with GC-FID/MS.

However, we observed the peaks only in MS spectrum without FID spectrum. We need help with the set up method and configure the column maybe.

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  • Hi James!

     

    We have GC (Agilent 7890A) and MS (Agilent 5975C), spectral interpretation by using the NIST MS Search programme version 2.0.

    It is very good if you can help us with this.

     

    Best regards,

    Huyen

  • The FID is a two dimensional signal and NIST will not be able to read FID data. Perhaps we need more information here, can you see the FID signal in data analyses ?

  • Hi!

     

    Yes, we see some peaks in FID signal which are not corresponding to MS spectrum.

    I think we need to change the analytic method.

    Do you have the same system like us? The sample is sent from inlet to splitter which splits it in two columns, one connects with FID and another with MS. It seems no sample goes to the column connected with FID.

     

    Best regards

  • Hi,

    Yes, we have CFT splitter (G3181 60500) in our system, and two same size columns (HP-5MS) (5m x 0.25mm x 0.25µm).

    We actually do not know how to control splitter input. Could you suggest us the way to do it. Here is a part information of our method:

    Column #1
    Agilent 19091S-433: USF729013H
    HP-5MS  5% Phenyl Methyl Silox
    325 °C: 30 m x 250 µm x 0.25 µm
    In: Front SS Inlet He
    Out: Vacuum

    (Initial)                                    45 °C
    Pressure                                     7.3614 psi
    Flow                                         1 mL/min
    Average Velocity                             36.354 cm/sec
    Holdup Time                                  1.3754 min
    Flow Program                                 On
        1 mL/min for 0 min
    Run Time                                     139.75 min

    Column #2
    Agilent 19091S-433: USF731114H
    HP-5MS  5% Phenyl Methyl Silox
    325 °C: 30 m x 250 µm x 0.25 µm
    In: Front SS Inlet He
    Out: Front Detector FID

    (Initial)                                    45 °C
    Pressure                                     7.3614 psi
    Flow                                         0.5561 mL/min
    Average Velocity                             15.963 cm/sec
    Holdup Time                                  3.1321 min
    Pressure Program                             On
        7.3614 psi for 0 min
    Run Time                                     139.75 min

    Front Detector FID
    Heater                                       On    250 °C
    H2 Flow                                      On    25 mL/min
    Air Flow                                     On    400 mL/min
    Makeup Flow                                  On    25 mL/min
    Const Col + Makeup                           Off
    Flame                                        On
    Electrometer                                 On

     

    Best regards,

  • Good morning,

    I work for Agilent and support GCMSD and CFT splitters. Depending on how you are splitting, CFT plate, or simple union etc, back to basics checking connections is the place to start. Keep in mind that the MSD has a vacuum on the end of the column so with the same size columns more flow will go to the MSD. Are you splitting using a CFT splitter? Let me know more about the splitter input and I maybe able to make better suggestions.

    Regards

    James

  • I see that your run is over 2 hours long? This maybe difficult to determine the issues you are having through the Agilent community.  Do you see a solvent peak on the FID after injection?

    James

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