Parameter changes from FID method to MS

Hi everyone!

We have a gas method that we are basing our work on, which uses an FID detector, but we have an MS detector and want to make modifications to the method to make it reproducible. Our gas equipment is the following: Headspace Sampler 7697A: Module G4556A; Automatic Injector 7693A: Module G4513A; Column Zone 8860: Module G2790A; Mass Detector 5977B: Module G70818.  

Method with FID Detector:


Column: DB1, 15m, 0.53mm, 1.50µm - Ref. 125-1012
Injected volume: 1 µL
Injector temperature: 270°C
Detector temperature: 280°C

GC oven settings:

Temperature Rate Hold time
120°C - 0 min
260°C 5°C/min 5 min

Run time: 33 min
Flow rate: 10.0 mL/min
Split ratio: 10
Purge flow control: 5 mL/min
Air flow: 300 mL/min
Hydrogen flow: 30 mL/min
Nitrogen flow: 25 mL/min

Method with MS Detector


Column: DB1, 15m, 0.32mm, 1µm - Ref. 123-1013

When modifying the column dimensions, the run time should be change due to factors such as the column diameter and length. What run time would you recommend? What other types of changes would be advisable? 

Thank you in advanced!

  • Start by downloading the Method Translator:  GC Calculators and Method Translator Software | Agilent . Also use this online tool: GC Column Selector | Agilent

    What type of samples do you run now? What is the matrix? What are the compounds of interest? Can you upload an annotated chromatogram?

    A 15m × 0.32 column does not have enough restriction to be used with a GCMS. The vacuum and the low optimal range of flow for decent ion source use preclude it. For decent column flow control the inlet pressure must always be >= 5 psi and the total flow >= 20 ml/min.  Have you considered switching to hydrogen carrier gas as that affects the column choice as well.

  • Thank you.

    The column we have chosen for this MS method is the following --> 30mx0.32 mmx0.50 um Ref 123-103E . Is it ok?

     We have entered the following data into the Method Translator application, and the following result was obtained:

    How can we determine the outlet flow value if we only know the flow rate from the original method? 

    The sample is an oily ester plasticizing excipient.

    Chromatogram:

    Thank you in advanced!

  • The optimum flow for the GC/MS ion source is 1.2 ml/min of helium with a reasonable range of 0.8 to 1.4 ml/min. It will work at higher flows to 2.0 ml/min but there are tradeoffs.  The method translator tried to get there at 1.28 ml/min - that's fine.  However, the starting inlet pressure at 120’ C initial oven temperature using the translator is less than 5 psi at only 3.5 psi.  Please reconsider your column choice and purchase either a 30m × 0.25 mm id or a 20m × 0.18 mm id one.  You could also use a 60m × 0.32 mm id column, but only 30m of 0.32 mm id is not enough restriction to the MS.

    That chromatography is not very pretty and the peaks are very small. Are they only barely 2 pA tall on the FID?  What is the injected solvent or is this a headspace run?  How do you prepare the samples?  

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