ERROR: Not allowed to change setpoint when in MS Shutdown.

I'm getting the ERROR: Not allowed to change setpoint when in MS Shutdown. after trying to power ON the 7890b with 5977b.

To power ON i'm using the following procedure of:

1-) press booth buttons in the base line of the instruments,

2-) connect the ACQUISTION SOFTWARE, going to  VIEW-> TUNE AND VACUMM CONTROL-> VACUUM-> MS VACUUM CONTROL-> an press the button PUMP DOWN. 

The diffusion pump is working but show's below as OFF

When I press the button MS/AUX DET, it show's:

  

Then I scrown doll the menu, to START MSD Pumpdown? YES/NO , press YES button

Then I get the ERROR:

Any idea to how turn on my instruments ?

  • Hi I moved your post to the GC/MS Forum for better visibility.  Thanks!

  • When the MSD power is turned on, the foreline pump starts immediately. It must make it down to less than 400 millitorr in less than eight minutes or it will shut down the system. The screen capture above shows the rough vacuum at 442529 mTorr - which is nearly atmospheric pressure. 

    To start up:

    • Verify that there is carrier gas connected, turned on, and the regulator is set high enough for the GC inlet to function properly - typically 60 to 80 psi.
    • The GC is ready to go
    • The gas lines, inlet(s), and column(s) are sufficiently purged with carrier gas
    • Open the GC oven door and make absolutely sure that a column is installed into the MS with the proper nut and ferrule.
    • Loosen both analyzer shipping screws completely. The vacuum holds the analyzer shut, so they are not needed during normal operation.

    To Pump Down the MSD in EI Mode

    1. Remove the analyzer window cover
    2. Open the vent valve by turning the knob counter-clockwise – do not open it too far, ~1/2 turn is sufficient
    3. Hold the analyzer door shut. Press on the metal box on the side board.
    4. Press the Power button on the front of the MSD
    5. The foreline pump will make a gurgling noise.
    6. Listen to hear a sucking sound from the vent valve. This signifies that the side plate has sealed. Close the vent valve fully.
    7. The rough pump gurgling should stop within a minute.
    8. Start MassHunter Data Acquisition
    9. In the Instrument Control view of the Instrument menu, select MS Vacuum Control to display the Vacuum Control dialog.
    10. Click Pump Down in the Vacuum Control dialog and follow the system prompts
    11. When prompted, turn on the GC/MSD interface heater and GC oven. Click on OK when you have done so. The software will turn on the ion source and quadrupole heaters. The temperature setpoints are stored in the current tune file (*.u).
    12. After the message Okay to run appears, wait at least 2 hours for the system to reach thermal equilibrium. Data acquired before the system is equilibrated may not be reproducible

    Your patience will be rewarded. Take your time to ensure that the vacuum is acceptable before you proceed.
    Do not start until the vacuum is less than 6 or 7 x 10-5!

  • Hello I have a 5977B. It says something similar "Hivac Guage is not connected" what does that mean? Its been a while since Ive used it and I dont recall seeing that memo on the panel but foreline pressure is good its at 70mtorr

  • The optional high vacuum gauge has a cable between the gauge and the electronics. It is either disconnected or the gauge has failed.

    See page 125 and 126 in the 5977B Series MSD Operating Manual for instructions on how to turn it on and off.

    The gauge itself is mounted on the back of the analyzer manifold at the opposite end from the ion source. It is number 10 in this diagram and the cable is number 20.

    The ion gauge itself has a filament that glows and ionizes any molecules in the gauge. Those ions are captured and the current flow across those ions is proportional to the vacuum reading.  The ion gauge filament will fail someday and the gauge must be replaced.

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